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    Author Topic: Islam... peaceable?  (Read 606 times)
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    « Reply #30 on: January 31, 2010, 04:46:46 PM »

    Dadman:

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    In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
    Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10
    countries during this time.

    while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.

    I have no retort for that one, but that's because of family pride.  Wink
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    « Reply #31 on: January 31, 2010, 05:09:26 PM »

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    qualified in post #13

    Not soon enough. It should have been in your original post if you didn't want to be misunderstood.

    such is the reality of human traits.  flawed.
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    « Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 01:17:41 PM »

    ( according to SteveC ) "the Gospels where used to justify slavery in the US and on and on . . . Where that cross has gone, so has slavery and death . . . Is it about people's souls, or about power and money that drives all religions?."



    Koran 9:3
    ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE

    Koran 8:65
    O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred

    Koran 8:55
    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

    Koran 9:29-30
    Fight those who do not believe in Allah .. And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!

    Just as no one should suggest that murdering, abortion protesters is sanctioned in Christianity, no one should make the assertion that suicide bombing is a tenet of Islam.( dude dosent watch news ?? )

    Koran 8:39
    And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah

    Koran 9:5
    When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them

    Koran 8:71
    And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM

    I would contend that SteveC
    harps and whines about the wrong religion . . . . indeed

    Koran 9:14
    FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM.


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    « Reply #33 on: March 08, 2010, 03:57:40 PM »

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    harps and whines about the wrong religion . . . . indeed

    You talk about Christianity to Christians, and Islam to Muslims.  It does not make sense to do it the other way around. 

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    « Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 04:55:58 PM »

    You talk about Christianity to Christians, and Islam to Muslims.  It does not make sense to do it the other way around.

    Please clarify
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    « Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 06:02:56 PM »

    Did I stutter?

    If there were a bunch of Muslims around, we'd talk about their religion to them, but there are not. 

    We are surrounded by Christians though. 

    Christians set the status quo, pass laws governing behavior, and get interviewed with their clergy on TV before they get elected. 

    When there are Muslims around, we will deal with them, right now we are surrounded by our own group of people that thing it is a virtue to convert everyone to their way of thinking, no matter how wrong that is.  We have to deal with the problem at hand. 

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    « Reply #36 on: March 08, 2010, 06:47:01 PM »

    Did I stutter?

    If there were a bunch of Muslims around, we'd talk about their religion to them, but there are not. 

    We are surrounded by Christians though. 

    Christians set the status quo, pass laws governing behavior, and get interviewed with their clergy on TV before they get elected. 

    When there are Muslims around, we will deal with them, right now we are surrounded by our own group of people that thing it is a virtue to convert everyone to their way of thinking, no matter how wrong that is.  We have to deal with the problem at hand. 

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    Yes.. I agree... dealing with all of these anarchists is problematic enough without having to deal with another group.   Wink
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    « Reply #37 on: March 08, 2010, 07:30:05 PM »

    ATGNWT = "If there were a bunch of Muslims around, we'd talk about their religion to them, but there are not .. We are surrounded by Christians though."  

    Oh what a buncha BS .. ATGNWT, I'll talk about whatever and to whom ever I wish .. it seems to me that when one of these so-called 'evolved' egg-heads can't deal with an issue on the table .. they go into this some kind of: "oh, you're not supposed to say that" . . . again . . . I challenge anyone to display the scriptures in the NT that advocate death / slavery / money and power . . . . I'm listening . . . peace  =:0]

    ATGNWT = "Christians set the status quo, pass laws governing behavior, and get interviewed with their clergy on TV before they get elected."


    well well ATGNWT, .. welcome to America .. I would suggest you get organized and vote =:0]



    SteveC ( Atheist ) . . . . "Not only do I have faith in myself and love myself, but I want to marry myself, procreate myself, fornicate and spread every STD known to mankind to myself. I wish I could find a pet that reminded me of myself so I could marry it also. I also worship the almighty $$$ and live for conspicuous consumption. I worship anything that is anti-god and pray for the destruction of all religions." ( don't forget to add your own religion Steve )

    Sounds like you ( ATGNWT ) should run SteveC as your candidate
     . . . . ya think ??  =:0]
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    « Reply #38 on: March 08, 2010, 07:46:44 PM »

    So, why do you (dadman) think that I get along just fine with the atheists that I meet? 

    Could it be because I don't tell them what to believe?
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    « Reply #39 on: March 08, 2010, 07:48:52 PM »

    ATGNWT = "So, why do you (dadman) think that I get along just fine with the atheists that I meet? . . .
    Could it be because I don't tell them what to believe?"

    ATGNWT, display anywhere I have "told you ( or anyone ) what to believe" .. I require no one to believe what I believe
    My God only calles me to love his truth .. to learn and live his truth and to proclaim ( display ) his truth .. any 'results' are in HIS hands not mine .. THANK YOU JESUS  =:0]


    PS: I get along just fine .. just pointing out SteveC's
    ( usual ) misguidedness






    Jesus . . . "Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy. Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practise magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practises falsehood.
    I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star. The Spirit and the bride say, Come! And let him who hears say, Come! Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.


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    « Reply #40 on: March 08, 2010, 11:16:35 PM »

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan worked hard last week
    denying the 1915 genocide of Christian Armenians

    ( One and a half million Armenians were killed,
    out of a total of two and a half million Armenians in the
    Ottoman Empire. )
     

    This week, he'll fly down to Saudi Arabia to receive the Muslim world's 'Nobel Prize' - which is awarded to individuals who make the world a 'better place' through 'positive contributions' in 'service to Islam'.


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    « Reply #41 on: March 09, 2010, 08:45:55 PM »

    2010-03-09 .. Christians flee after Nigeria's massacre

    The threat of new attacks have driven Christians in Nigeria from their homes. 500 Christians, mostly women, children, and elderly, were hacked to death over the weekend.

    "They removed the baby (from her back) and killed her with machete," Yakubu said .. Survivors say the authorities did nothing to prevent the butchery . . . Thousands have been killed in recent years from strife in and around Jos, which is on the dividing line between the mainly Muslim north and Christian dominated south.
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    « Reply #42 on: March 09, 2010, 09:33:22 PM »


    ATGNWT = "When there are Muslims around, we will deal with them, right now we are surrounded by our own group of people that thing it is a virtue to convert everyone to their way of thinking, no matter how wrong that is. We have to deal with the problem at hand . . . . all"

    Is ATGNWT telling me I have no right to
    preach and teach concerning the God I love ??


    So tell me ATGNWT,
    how do you plan to 'deal' with this problem of yours ??
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