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[Heterodoxus]

"Idol" judge comments: "Oh, good Lord!"

Simon's face = 10,000 words.

[CCC460]

I don't watch a lot of tv except for sports, but does anyone really think any of this is real?

Isn't american idol sort of in the reality tv genre, which makes a lot of it drama?

obviously, they put this guy on the program among the hundreds who tried out because it's so weird. The guy looks stoned (and also resembles kid-rock).

[OmarKhayyam]

Really are you religious fanatics so desperate for evidence of your "persecution" that you create this incident?

At least find a somewhat believable "victim" to be your martyr rather than this drunk ignorant talentless example of PWT.

Hard to believe that is the best you can come up with.

Then again - maybe not.

[Acumen]

That was a bit rude, don't you think?

[Gorm_Sionnach]

I've never actually watched the show (though my fiance has had it on and I have been in the same room), having said that I agree (I think) with CCC's comments on the shows commitment to "reality", that being that I'm sure there are producers who scope out (and certainly edit together the "good" with the freaks) the freaks and get them to ham it up, over react, etc.

I mean the US could be rife with such apparently large numbers of mind numbingly deluded/ unaware people who also happen to be drawn to the show, the population is certainly large enough to facilitate such a demographic, but I do think the show is hardly indicative of reality.

[OmarKhayyam]

That was a bit rude, don't you think?

No. Not at all. 

I think it quite accurate as to both motive and facts of the incident. How many posts have you seen on this board by Christians despairing about the "lack of respect" their mythology receives? How many, in recent weeks, have lamented they loss of "respect for Christian values" in the USA? They regard themselves as victims. They revel in their self described state. They yearn for yet more public examples of persecution oppression and hatred directed at them and the "Faith." They long to be seen as helpless victims of a vast atheist conspiracy to undermine all Christan morality and values.

I make no apology for my post. None whatever. And i challenge you - or anyone else - to disprove my thesis.

[Acumen]

What was your thesis again?

[OmarKhayyam]

ADS perhaps?

That Christians as a group view themselves as victims. That the incident under discussion is an example. They interpret the fact that this poor excuse for talent was taken off NOT because he was a bad singer but rather because he was a Christan witnessing to his faith.

That this particular example is but one of many. And that believer's actually ENJOY describing themselves in this way. That being persecuted for their faith is a proof of its validity. Therefore they are quick to see any act of "disrespect" no matter how trivial as evidence of the contempt directed at them and their beliefs by the atheist sinners of the world.

I further assert that are recent posts on this site that reflect the above described attitude.

[Acumen]

I further assert that are recent posts on this site that reflect the above described attitude.

Okay.   

[fenn]

A lot of them - not all, but a lot - do tend to cry 'persecution' from time to time, and all the while try to stamp out other religions. It's wack.

And, having heard awesome renditions of Amazing Grace all my life, living near black churches and being old enough to remember the Judy Collins version, that clown sucked rocks. On ice. Even without all that to compare it to, he still sucked.

But, that said, Idol is a horrible show. They're not looking for artists, they're looking for people they can mold. You can't mold an artist.

Sooooo....all in all, I suffer from a severe lack of concern about any of this.

[CCC460]

Really are you religious fanatics so desperate for evidence of your "persecution" that you create this incident?
 

Well, that's a red herring. the only one's who created this incident would be the editors and producers of American Idol.

You can think that this is some sort of contrived persecution made up by Christians, if you want, but that would then be your own fantasy.

[Deacon777]

"At least find a somewhat believable "victim" to be your martyr rather than this drunk ignorant talentless example of PWT."

You see, this is why we have religion. If you are left to yourself, this is the kind of mind-numbing idiocy you can become. Either you transform your anger or you will transmit it. And that is what healthy religion does, helps one transform themselves into real humans - instead of remaining self-contained empty vessels, spewing out sanctimonious vile over an incident that occurred on a silly show.

Geez, lay off the caffine.   

[Acumen]

Good to see you back, Deacon.   

[OmarKhayyam]

"You can think that this is some sort of contrived persecution made up by Christians, if you want, but that would then be your own fantasy."

You (deliberately?) miss the point. Note the title of the thread. It does NOT say some drunk and talentless nut case was ejected. It says a "God-lovin' Christian." The OP is saying this sad excuse for a singer was ejected because he WAS A CHRISTAN singing a Christian hymn NOT because he was an embarrassment to himself and to the art of singing.

Yet somehow this obvious point went completely over your head. Or so your post would lead us to believe.

[CCC460]

Nice try, Omar. no dice.

this guy claims to be a Christian. So what?
Then you make the ridiculous comment:

Really are you religious fanatics so desperate for evidence of your "persecution" that you create this incident?

As if this was a conspiracy in order to create a persecution.
People claim all sorts of things. If you want to think this was an attempt at persecution you're entitled to your opinion, but it's pretty much a fantasy opinion.

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