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Once this deciphering is received, Prof. Galil added, the inscription will become the earliest Hebrew inscription to be found, testifying to Hebrew writing abilities as early as the 10th century BCE.
This stands opposed to the dating of the composition ofthe Bible in current research
, which would not have recognized the possibility that the Bible or parts of it could have been written during this ancient period.
As time continues... the Tannakh becomes more historical... IMO
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In the 1800's didn't many think that Ninevah was a mythical city of legend only? The discovery of Ninevah and huge libraries of cuneiform texts, etc., dashed that arrogant dismissal, too.
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Ah yes, the infallible nature of secular academia.
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But people are just called 'crazy' for thinking that the Bible has some historical value to it. Science changes as more information comes forth. Apparently, thought, as science changes... the Tannakh just keeps being true.
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Quote from: Acumen on January 09, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
Ah yes, the infallible nature of secular academia.
You mean the academia that made the find? I wouldn't call academia infallible, but I'm glad we still have it!
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Quote from: kwd111 on January 09, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
But people are just called 'crazy' for thinking that the Bible has some historical value to it. Science changes as more information comes forth. Apparently, thought, as science changes... the Tannakh just keeps being true.
The bible
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have historical value to it. It is history as seen from a different paradigm than the paradigm used today, but it is history nonetheless.
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Even to those who disbelieve many things in the Bible, it is still 'raw-data' from that past, and there are so many ancient copies and fragments of it, pretty close to the time of the events, compared to most other situations from ancient history.
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Kwd:
I’m somewhat surprised that you and others, even those who wrote the article think this assumption that the Bible began to transition from oral traditions to written accounts occurred ca King David. This has been taught for many decades. It’s only lately that revisionists, basing their beliefs on the dearth in the archaeological record, have proposed that the traditions were not written down, or worse, made up, in the 7th and 6th centuries.
Inscription or no, this is old news and would elicit a yawn among students of Jewish tradition and Bible even in the Christian seminaries where I studied.
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Kwd:
I’m somewhat surprised that you and others, even those who wrote the article think this assumption that the Bible began to transition from oral traditions to written accounts occurred ca King David.
Sorry for the confusion... didn't say that nor do I believe that.
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This has been taught for many decades. It’s only lately that revisionists, basing their beliefs on the dearth in the archaeological record, have proposed that the traditions were not written down, or worse, made up, in the 7th and 6th centuries.
Inscription or no, this is old news and would elicit a yawn among students of Jewish tradition and Bible even in the Christian seminaries where I studied.
For those in the know... yes a yawn. But for those fundamentalist anti-history Tannakh criers... it is an eye awakening moment.
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Quote from: Acumen on January 09, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
Ah yes, the infallible nature of secular academia.
You mean the academia that made the find? I wouldn't call academia infallible, but I'm glad we still have it!
Academia has a great track record for discovering truths, but not so great for recanting falsehoods.
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By coincidence, we were just talking about this find this morning at the archaeological seminar I was at.
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Howie, the archaeologist we listened to this morning has been involved in a 15 year dig just north of Jerusalem, and I mentioned Finkelstein to him, and he rolled his eyes a bit and mentioned that he is very bright but is also highly opinionated. I mention this because you and I have discussed him before if you remember, so I thought you might appreciate his take on him.
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In my introductory anthropology class, I covered the evolution of ancient Sumer/Babylon that went from neolithic villages, to a civilization (associated villages/cities with no specific boundary), to an empire. What I have long found interesting is how the ancient Israelites appear to have followed a very similar evolution, going from a collection of villages in the Judean highlands to the eventual dynasties that followed, including David's and Solomon's of course.
What is believed to be probably the main cause is the area gradually going dry, probably due to the removal of trees for both housing and agricultural purposes. Many areas where there were villages became abandoned, not through warfare it appears, but probably because of running out of water. When this happens people flock to areas whereas there is a greater water supply and a greater availability of jobs, and Jerusalem was one of those sites.
Anyhow, this is the same pattern we saw with ancient Sumer.
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I mentioned Finkelstein to him, and he rolled his eyes a bit
That is good to hear. I've read his book, and he is typical of the revisionists who now agree with the 18th century critics who said the Jews made it all up about 6th century BCE, including the Exodus.
As you may remember, I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence in Shemot to indicate that there was a sojourn in Egypt that ended between 1400 BCE and 1250 BCE.
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and mentioned that he is very bright but is also highly opinionated.
Which is nothing like you and I, right?
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OMG, KWD, this appears to be scientific, all this dating stuff, that you are now advocating.
I wish I could remember all the questions you asked me about dating the stuff concerning Iron Age Bethlehem.
Btw, are any of these inscriptions, that were recently discovered, found in the Bible?
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