Then explain "chaos theory" at the sub-atomic level? These so-called "guidelines" seem to break down at the quantum level.
I'm gonna have to be very brief.
There is chaos at the sub-atomic level, but that chaos "disappears" (actually it doesn't, but I don't have time to get into it) when we get to the mega-matter level. It's sort of like a picture that's very grainy up close but looks good the further back you get.
This has been my point all along. It is no greater an assumption that a rule-maker operated behind the curtain as 'twere - as these rules just somehow just poofed into existence or asserted themselves by chance.
Who said the rules "just poofed into existence"? Might not they have always been there?
With all due respect, that is a pointless question for beings trapped in space and time. I could ask you the same thing - where did this primordial "stuff", be it energy/mass or whatever - where did that come from? If time is a created 'thing", and it is, then eternity/infinity is real not imagined.
How do you know your god is not "trapped in space and time"? What evidence can you offer? None. So, the reality is that you don't know.
Secondly, the above makes the mistake of assuming that energy/matter wasn't always there to begin with, which is at least a hypothetical possibility.
If one states He/it was always there - they are saying He/it is eternal. Since we know eternity is real - something has to be eternal. Rules like time and space are created things, unless you want say Rules always were.
Well, we know energy/matter exists, but we don't know that a deity exists with any certainty, so where would be the logical place to put the odds?
Most cosmologist do not take a stand one way or the other because the whole question is beyond their purview. They are only concerned with observable and measurable facts - i.e. science.
92% of all cosmologists in the U.S. are atheists or agnostic, so that should tell us something. Certainly, we don't know much of anything for certain in this area, and certainly there is still room for a theistic cause, but it would seem that in order for that theistic cause to be taken seriously, we should be able to substantiate beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a God. Or is it Gods, Deacon?
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