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    « Reply #165 on: August 19, 2009, 10:11:09 AM »

    If, as CCC maintains, our bodies aren't necessary to our resurrection, why would Jesus' body have been essential?

    I think you misunderstand me. When I said
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    It doesn't say that the same molecules necissarily need by present.
    , I wasn’t inferring that our bodies weren’t necessary. I was stating that the limit of the Christian belief is that our body and spirit will be reunited. That really doesn’t address the particulars of how that is achieved.

    Just as an observation, I think this is a problem in the thinking of us as Christians that come from the western thought. The Eastern Orthodox never get hung up on these kinds of issues as to how things happen. They are content living with that tension, and they often point that out to me when I debate them.
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    « Reply #166 on: August 19, 2009, 10:15:49 AM »

    The EO church values mystery over dogma--a far more reasonable position IMO.
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    « Reply #167 on: August 19, 2009, 10:30:55 AM »

    The EO church values mystery over dogma--a far more reasonable position IMO.
    On that we would definately agree.
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    « Reply #168 on: August 19, 2009, 10:35:07 AM »



    My point was that an empty tomb is hardly requisite for a resurrection.  The bodies of most of the people that the Catholic church expects to be resurrected are long gone.

    Was there any rhyme or reason with these statements?  Have you ever seen a body resurrected after less than one week and still have a tomb that didn't become empty?  Certainly if the Pharisees or even Rome itself wanted to end what some people call a fable of Jesus being resurrected... all they had to do was just point to a filled tomb.  Undecided

    Non sequitur.  

    First Ockham's Razor and now non sequitur and both misapplied... FB.. are you doing OK?
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    The disciples supposedly encountered a Jesus whom they frequently didn't recognize at first, who walked through walls and spontaneously disappeared.  They clearly didn't think that he was the same as prior to death.  If, as CCC maintains, our bodies aren't necessary to our resurrection, why would Jesus' body have been essential?

    Personally, I don't have a problem with this.  When people are in great grief and in great fear, their perceptions are altered.  Personally, if my son walked through a wall and spontaneously disappeared, I may not have recognized him either.

    Of course, ones understanding as to why Jesus body is essential would be simply a theological position as to the 'why'.

    As to my position... We receive a new body because of His resurrection, He holds on to His body as an eternal testament of His crucifixion, redemptive power and statement that death has been overcome.  It is the union of spiritual and physical into the spiritual/physical body that has always been the plan of God for man.  This isn't the Gospel Truth but just my viewpoint.
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    « Reply #169 on: August 19, 2009, 11:15:24 AM »

    Huh - Trying to figure out how we got so far off topic here......
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    « Reply #170 on: August 19, 2009, 12:26:20 PM »

     Grin  LOL

    Did the "Worlds greatest forum moderator and hero member" - start to talk about Christianity on the Judaism Debate board?

    Boy, are we in trouble now!   Wink
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