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    « on: July 19, 2009, 11:33:32 AM »

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090719/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor

    Less than a month after publicly calling his Argentine mistress his "soulmate", but nevertheless affirming that he wanted to work on his marriage with his wife (who must have been thrilled to hear it), SC governor Sanford is using "God" like a comma in his speeches and written communications.  As it turns out, God is going to ensure that he'll be an even better governor (assuming voters are impressed enough with his piety to re-elect him).  The third commandment supposedly admonishes the faithful not to misuse the name of God, but if this sort of thing isn't misuse, I really don't know what would qualify.

    Several years ago I stopped short of making a commitment to a medical mission in South America because the physician with whom I would be working spoke as if God told him what to have for breakfast or which toothpaste to use.  The net effect was that every opinion he advanced was stamped with God's pre-approval, implying that anyone who disagreed with him was contending with the almighty.

    I think the wisdom of the third commandment is that it proscribes this sort of behavior.  Unfortunately, it is the most commonly ignored commandment of the ten.
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    « Reply #1 on: July 19, 2009, 11:48:44 AM »

    "We preach a better sermon with our lives than with our lips".


    I am always wary of those who act as self-appointed emmissaries or oracles from God. Why throw out the 'G' word every chance? Let your light so shine that men will want to put you on a hill.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 19, 2009, 12:41:30 PM »

    Who really knows if Gov. Sanford is truly sorry or simply sorry he was caught.
    It appears, from my pov that in the South, one can do something wrong and apologize for the action but by adding god into the sentence, it somehow suggests that he is really apologetic and for those of the conservative beliefs, it somehow suggests that he is truly sorry. Personally, I don’t buy it as I see it strictly as a political move. By confessing god, my general thought is that those in his area will believe he’s repentant and let it go.
    It always seemed to me that in certain areas of the country, one could apologize but by adding god into the apology, it somehow makes it better and more acceptable and people, at least appear to forgive more. Whether or not this is true, I don’t know but it’s the impression I get. Personally, I think he’s sorry he was caught, that’s all.
    I will add that I find it amusing that all the family values GOP men are being caught with their pants down…literally. This isn’t to say that the Dems haven’t or aren’t doing the same thing but I haven’t heard them harp about the same issues.
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    « Reply #3 on: July 19, 2009, 01:01:55 PM »

    What astounds me is that after he was caught, he opined that the Argentine, not the mother of his 4 kids and wife of several decades, was his "soulmate", and somehow she still thinks that they have a future together.  I feel sad for her.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 02:28:36 PM »

    I never trust anyone who just got caught in an affair an then uses God to change popular opinion of him.

    I'm not saying he's not repentant.. he might be.
    He might even be sincere in using God's name..

    But God brings things done in darkness to light..
    So IMO only.. I'd be careful using God for your own personal gain.
    trust is earned not given..
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    « Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 02:32:18 PM »

    Nobody is buying it.  Not South Carolinians, not Christians, not republicans.  

    As for the suggestion this is a republican thing, please don't forget the huge Bible Clinton used to be seen carrying out of church services every time the Lewinsky story got hot in the press.  It is a non partisan issue.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 02:53:48 PM »


    I will add that I find it amusing that all the family values GOP men are being caught with their pants down…literally.
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    This isn’t to say that the Dems haven’t or aren’t doing the same thing but I haven’t heard them harp about the same issues.

    Your suggestion is it is better not to have standards, therefore you will never fail to meet them.
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    « Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 04:59:43 PM »


    I will add that I find it amusing that all the family values GOP men are being caught with their pants down…literally.
    All?

    Is a reference to those GOP members who are harping about family values and such and are the ones being caught having the affairs.

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    This isn’t to say that the Dems haven’t or aren’t doing the same thing but I haven’t heard them harp about the same issues.

    Your suggestion is it is better not to have standards, therefore you will never fail to meet them.

    In no way, shape or form am I even suggesting that one not have standards. All I’m saying is that the GOP, who loves to harp about family values and conservative agendas, love to do so because it rallies their constituents. One can have standards without preaching to the world about it. The Dems have their pets, just like the GOP has their pets.
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    « Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 05:06:41 PM »

    After reading the article, it doesn't seem to me like many people are buying it, especially Republicans:

    "His love letters show he's a helluva writer," said Sen. Jake Knotts, R-West Columbia, a frequent adversary who made public that Sanford was missing. Sanford worked to get him ousted in the last election. "He's a helluva writer and a promise maker, but he doesn't keep promises to the state of South Carolina like he doesn't keep promises to his wife."

    If Gov. Sanford has truly seen the error of his ways, I wish him well.  But even if he has, most Christians understand there is a price to pay in this lifetime for bad behavior by any Christian.  If you are a son of God, you will be disciplined, "Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you like sons.  For what son is not disciplined by his father?  If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons." 

    A Christian does not just pick up where he left off when confronted with a sin like this.  He may lose his job and his family.   And what mistress truly wants a man she knows is a cheater at heart?  He has played the fool.  He can be restored, but his life will not be the same. 

    As for dropping God's name, that's a dangerous business.  If you truly want God in your life and your future, God is going to do it his way, not yours.  Be careful what you wish for.
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    « Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 05:29:09 PM »

    I'd laud that if I could.   Smiley
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    « Reply #10 on: July 19, 2009, 06:15:37 PM »

    Oh rats!  I was about to get a laud and the darned thing is turned off.   Arrrgh.
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    « Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 06:54:14 PM »

    After reading the article, it doesn't seem to me like many people are buying it, especially Republicans:

    "His love letters show he's a helluva writer," said Sen. Jake Knotts, R-West Columbia, a frequent adversary who made public that Sanford was missing. Sanford worked to get him ousted in the last election. "He's a helluva writer and a promise maker, but he doesn't keep promises to the state of South Carolina like he doesn't keep promises to his wife."

    If Gov. Sanford has truly seen the error of his ways, I wish him well.  But even if he has, most Christians understand there is a price to pay in this lifetime for bad behavior by any Christian.  If you are a son of God, you will be disciplined, "Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you like sons.  For what son is not disciplined by his father?  If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons." 

    A Christian does not just pick up where he left off when confronted with a sin like this.  He may lose his job and his family.   And what mistress truly wants a man she knows is a cheater at heart?  He has played the fool.  He can be restored, but his life will not be the same. 

    As for dropping God's name, that's a dangerous business.  If you truly want God in your life and your future, God is going to do it his way, not yours.  Be careful what you wish for.

    I laugh in the face of danger. I've dropped god from an Upper Case God to a lower case god, and nothing has happened to me. I might even use the small print feature from now on.
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    « Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 06:56:26 PM »

    After reading the article, it doesn't seem to me like many people are buying it, especially Republicans:

    "His love letters show he's a helluva writer," said Sen. Jake Knotts, R-West Columbia, a frequent adversary who made public that Sanford was missing. Sanford worked to get him ousted in the last election. "He's a helluva writer and a promise maker, but he doesn't keep promises to the state of South Carolina like he doesn't keep promises to his wife."

    If Gov. Sanford has truly seen the error of his ways, I wish him well.  But even if he has, most Christians understand there is a price to pay in this lifetime for bad behavior by any Christian.  If you are a son of God, you will be disciplined, "Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you like sons.  For what son is not disciplined by his father?  If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons." 

    A Christian does not just pick up where he left off when confronted with a sin like this.  He may lose his job and his family.   And what mistress truly wants a man she knows is a cheater at heart?  He has played the fool.  He can be restored, but his life will not be the same. 

    As for dropping God's name, that's a dangerous business.  If you truly want God in your life and your future, God is going to do it his way, not yours.  Be careful what you wish for.

    I laugh in the face of danger. I've dropped god from an Upper Case God to a lower case god, and nothing has happened to me.

    *gasp* 
    don't do it steve!!!
    don't do it..
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    « Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 10:52:12 PM »

    I laugh in the face of danger. I've dropped god from an Upper Case God to a lower case god, and nothing has happened to me. I might even use the small print feature from now on.




    Jesus is gonna gitch ya for that!


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    « Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 11:05:10 PM »

    I laugh in the face of danger. I've dropped god from an Upper Case God to a lower case god, and nothing has happened to me. I might even use the small print feature from now on.




    Jesus is gonna gitch ya for that!
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    I'm looking forward to meeting him. If he thought crucifixion was uncomfortable, he's in for a surprise.
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