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[kwd111]

Life is pretty obvious... except where it isn't. Where do frozen embryos and abortion fit into the picture? Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?

Liberty. Everyone seems to know what it means, but no one seems to agree with what it applies to. If it isn't causing harm to anyone, do I have the liberty to go to the beach stark naked? Do I have the liberty to protest, to sing in the shower, to sing on a street corner? Do I have the liberty to wed who I want to, to vote for who I want to? Does everyone?

The pursuit of happiness. If Life and liberty are problematic, this one is worse. So many different things make so many people happy. Why are some things that harm people legal, though, and some things that don't harm people not? For example, why can I buy cigarettes, that would harm both myself and anyone inhaling the secondhand smoke, including children, but I can't enter into marriage with a fully-consenting other adult female, who I doubt anyone else would be inhaling? I don't get it.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are our inalienable rights. It just isn't clear if everyone has them, or if society feels that everyone really should.

Frith,
CH

Great post.  Maybe that is why President John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The confusion comes in that we are no longer a moral and religious people

So it's more moral to force a person to live like a vegetable for month instead of allowing this person to die? Why?

How you got from point "a" to point "b" is way beyond my pay grade.

[Celsus]

Life is pretty obvious... except where it isn't. Where do frozen embryos and abortion fit into the picture? Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?

Liberty. Everyone seems to know what it means, but no one seems to agree with what it applies to. If it isn't causing harm to anyone, do I have the liberty to go to the beach stark naked? Do I have the liberty to protest, to sing in the shower, to sing on a street corner? Do I have the liberty to wed who I want to, to vote for who I want to? Does everyone?

The pursuit of happiness. If Life and liberty are problematic, this one is worse. So many different things make so many people happy. Why are some things that harm people legal, though, and some things that don't harm people not? For example, why can I buy cigarettes, that would harm both myself and anyone inhaling the secondhand smoke, including children, but I can't enter into marriage with a fully-consenting other adult female, who I doubt anyone else would be inhaling? I don't get it.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are our inalienable rights. It just isn't clear if everyone has them, or if society feels that everyone really should.

Frith,
CH

Great post.  Maybe that is why President John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The confusion comes in that we are no longer a moral and religious people

So it's more moral to force a person to live like a vegetable for month instead of allowing this person to die? Why?

How you got from point "a" to point "b" is way beyond my pay grade.

Didn't you read CH's post?

"Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?"

[kwd111]

Life is pretty obvious... except where it isn't. Where do frozen embryos and abortion fit into the picture? Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?

Liberty. Everyone seems to know what it means, but no one seems to agree with what it applies to. If it isn't causing harm to anyone, do I have the liberty to go to the beach stark naked? Do I have the liberty to protest, to sing in the shower, to sing on a street corner? Do I have the liberty to wed who I want to, to vote for who I want to? Does everyone?

The pursuit of happiness. If Life and liberty are problematic, this one is worse. So many different things make so many people happy. Why are some things that harm people legal, though, and some things that don't harm people not? For example, why can I buy cigarettes, that would harm both myself and anyone inhaling the secondhand smoke, including children, but I can't enter into marriage with a fully-consenting other adult female, who I doubt anyone else would be inhaling? I don't get it.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are our inalienable rights. It just isn't clear if everyone has them, or if society feels that everyone really should.

Frith,
CH

Great post.  Maybe that is why President John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The confusion comes in that we are no longer a moral and religious people

So it's more moral to force a person to live like a vegetable for month instead of allowing this person to die? Why?

How you got from point "a" to point "b" is way beyond my pay grade.

Didn't you read CH's post?

"Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?"

Context, Celsus, context.  The context was simply how it is difficult to say what is life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for one and may not be for another.  What you did is cherry picked and then made it stand on its own without addressing the context.

[Celsus]

Life is pretty obvious... except where it isn't. Where do frozen embryos and abortion fit into the picture? Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?

Liberty. Everyone seems to know what it means, but no one seems to agree with what it applies to. If it isn't causing harm to anyone, do I have the liberty to go to the beach stark naked? Do I have the liberty to protest, to sing in the shower, to sing on a street corner? Do I have the liberty to wed who I want to, to vote for who I want to? Does everyone?

The pursuit of happiness. If Life and liberty are problematic, this one is worse. So many different things make so many people happy. Why are some things that harm people legal, though, and some things that don't harm people not? For example, why can I buy cigarettes, that would harm both myself and anyone inhaling the secondhand smoke, including children, but I can't enter into marriage with a fully-consenting other adult female, who I doubt anyone else would be inhaling? I don't get it.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are our inalienable rights. It just isn't clear if everyone has them, or if society feels that everyone really should.

Frith,
CH

Great post.  Maybe that is why President John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The confusion comes in that we are no longer a moral and religious people

So it's more moral to force a person to live like a vegetable for month instead of allowing this person to die? Why?

How you got from point "a" to point "b" is way beyond my pay grade.

Didn't you read CH's post?

"Where do people in persistent vegetative states fit into the picture? Where do people who want to commit suicide fit into the picture?"

Context, Celsus, context.  The context was simply how it is difficult to say what is life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for one and may not be for another.  What you did is cherry picked and then made it stand on its own without addressing the context.

It's always amusing when YOU refer to context.

[ChicagoHeathen]

KWD, is, however, correct in this case. I was presenting difficulties in what seems so simple by listing some examples.

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