Any other religions besides JWs?

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Any other religions besides JWs?

« on: April 05, 2009, 02:17:34 PM »

On page 2 of the "Does a person have to be a JW to be happy?" thread over at Topix, Nevada Rose said:

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I agree Gareth. The truth answers the main questions we have about being here and why we die, and what Jehovah has in store for us...
I believe the HOPE that comes with truth is the greatest happiness we have in this evil world.
We learned Jehovah's plan for us at the beginning. We know what happened to mess it up....and we now know what will happen to clean it up.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TPRK1K82L3ORFM2GG/p2

And that made me wonder about other religious teachings and I was wondering if anyone here(JW or non-JW) knows whether or not there are any other religions(Christian or non-Christian) that teach from their scriptures or holy writings, a well rounded story of mankind's beginning and purpose and future. The reason why I am curious about this is because Nevada Rose's comments above helped me to see why JWs are so steadfast in believing in what they believe in. However, I was just wondering if there were any other religions that had a similar summary as to why we are here and how things got the way that they are, and how God is going to correct things in the future.


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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 05:09:21 PM »

If I understand your question correctly then yes. As a Seventh day Adventist we teach what is called the Great Controversy. It is a complete system explaining why we are here what is going on and related points.

If you wish to know about it. You can post to the Seventh day Adventis debate board and ask questons there.

May GOD bless you.

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 08:08:25 PM »

Quote from: Samuelbb7 on April 11, 2009, 05:09:21 PM

Thank you, Samuelbb7. Also, what you told me was enough because it helps me to understand a little bit better as to why JWs are so convinced that they are correct. But from what you explained, I'm sure that SDA also believe that they have the "truth" because of the reasoning and the explanations that they have about their beliefs.

Also, I am curious if any non-Christian religions have this type conviction.


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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 09:43:02 AM »

Howdy Edmonson

I am not sure any non Christian relgions have this type of Scenario. I believe that Zorastorism might since they do have a conflict story in their relgion.

On many issues Seventh day Adventist and Fundamentalist Christians agree. So we are not the only ones telling the truth. We do have some points where we disagree with other Christians. But a Christian is not defined by doctrine. A Christians is defined by love. Those who do not love GOD and love others are not christians no mattter how correct their doctrine.


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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 08:45:04 PM »

Quote from: Samuelbb7 on April 14, 2009, 09:43:02 AM

And just to note, that is "truth" according to your interpretation and beliefs. Wink

Quote from: Samuelbb7 on April 14, 2009, 09:43:02 AM

We do have some points where we disagree with other Christians. But a Christian is not defined by doctrine. A Christians is defined by love. Those who do not love GOD and love others are not christians no mattter how correct their doctrine.

That is a very good point, Samuelbb7. Because when I was associated with JWs, even though they taught that love was important, to be quite honest with you, from what I can recall, they actually seemed to have taught that correct doctrine was more important. And I think the reason for that was because of their interpretation of Revelation 18:4 where it is heeded to "Get out of her...!"(New World Translation), her meaning Babylon the Great who JWs interpret as being any and all religions that do not have the correct doctrine. Therefore, they feel an urgency to give heed to all other's to get out of Babylon the Great and to come into God's one and only true organization.

But I think that it would be interesting to start a thread about who or what exactly is Babylong the Great.


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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 09:53:19 AM »

That is right truth accoding to our understanding and beliefs. Wink

On the point about Babylon I and other SDA like to point out GOD is saying that many of his people are in Babylon. That is they believe false doctrine. But they are still GOD's people. So we will meet with them in the New Earth as brothers and sisters. So we should start now.


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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 06:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Samuelbb7 on April 17, 2009, 09:53:19 AM

Hi, Samuelbb7. I have a question for you, but could you answer it in the "Babylon the Great" thread? But first of all, this is what I read at Revelation 18:4-8...

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4Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
"Come out of her, my people,
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.
6Give back to her as she has given;
pay her back double for what she has done.
Mix her a double portion from her own cup.
7Give her as much torture and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
'I sit as queen; I am not a widow,
and I will never mourn.'
8Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.

But my question is: Doesn't verse 4 heed God's people to get out of Babylon the Great so that they won't share in her sins and receive any of her plagues? Also, doesn't verse 8 go more into detail about those plagues and describe them as "death, mourning and famine"? Therefore, I don't quite understand how you can say that God's people who remain in Babylon will be met by their brothers and sisters in the New Earth.


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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 10:43:09 PM »

You asked "whether or not there are any other religions(Christian or non-Christian) that teach from their scriptures or holy writings, a well rounded story of mankind's beginning and purpose and future."

Someone mentioned Zoroastreanism, which I don't know very much about so can't say.

However, as a Jew I beleive that Judaism does teach exactly that 'a well rounded story of mankind's beginning and purpose and future'. I'd call it 'well-rounded' as our heroes are shown as flawed individuals. Although even the ancient sages understood the 'Adam and Eve' stories to be allegorical, they drew from that mythic allegory our beginnings and purpose. And eventually, we got around to the 'future', after we've succeeded in our purpose (with the help of GOD, of course!).

In talking with my Muslim friends, it appears that they also have such teachings, although the details do differ.

And I believe this isn't just ocnfined to us Abrahamic types - certainly many 'Pagan' faiths have an 'end times' scenario (of course it's not a lot like the Christian version!)

You mihgt want to ask this question in a more 'visible' forum......